Indoor preview errors
11/30/2011 4:39:01 PM
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The author of the preview of the upcoming NC indoor season stated that Austin Vegas' indoor vault of 14-9.25 ranked 16th in the country. Actually, according to the Dyestat rankings, it was tied for 60th. His outdoor vault of 15-6 was tied for 68th, rather than 25th as the author stated. I realize that the author is trying to present NC athletes in the most favorable light possible, but errors of this magnitude do no one any favors.
The author of the preview of the upcoming NC indoor season stated that Austin Vegas' indoor vault of 14-9.25 ranked 16th in the country. Actually, according to the Dyestat rankings, it was tied for 60th. His outdoor vault of 15-6 was tied for 68th, rather than 25th as the author stated. I realize that the author is trying to present NC athletes in the most favorable light possible, but errors of this magnitude do no one any favors.
11/30/2011 5:57:46 PM
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@wmjbusby The article clearly states that he is the #16 RETURNER in the country, not that he was ranked #16 last year. The same is true for his outdoor mark, which is tied as the 23rd-best RETURNING mark in the country. In case you are unsure of the meaning of the term "returning," it means that last year's seniors were removed from the equation, leaving behind only those who are back to compete this year. The statistics used in the article are drawn from the MileSplit database, which is what we use for all rankings. As with the DyeStat rankings, we are dependent on people submitting results (except for major invitationals that we cover directly). According to DyeStat's rankings, Austin's outdoor mark of 15' 6" is...you guessed it...the 23rd best RETURNING vaulter from outdoors, which is exactly what was posted in the article. DyeStat seems to have more results from indoor season, and they have Austin as the 23rd RETURNER from indoor season, rather than 16th. Below are the MileSplit national lists of returning athletes in the pole vault, in case you are not a subscriber and can't see them for yourself. If you have more detailed information that includes results not found in the MileSplit database, please feel free to email it to me. RETURNERS from 2011 indoor season: Rank Mark Athlete Name Team C/O Date Meet 1. 16-8 Andreas Duplantis LA Lafayette High 2012 01/28/2011 National Pole Vault Summit 2. 16-3.25 Reese Watson TX Spring 2012 01/07/2011 Texas A&M Open 3. 16-1 Jacob Blankenship OH Gahanna Lincoln 2012 03/11/2011 Central District Indoor Championships 4. 16-0 Shawn Barber TX Kingwood Park 2012 01/01/2011 Pole Vault Expo Explosion II 5. 15-8.25 Terry Batemon IN Warren Central High School 2012 03/11/2011 New Balance Indoor Nationals 6. 15-8.25 Dillon Lookout Ok Pawhuska Hs 2012 03/11/2011 New Balance Indoor Nationals 7. 15-8 Connor Stark CA Oak Park High (SS) 2012 01/28/2011 National Pole Vault Summit 8. 15-2.25 Kyle Padalecki TX San Antonio East Central 2012 03/11/2011 New Balance Indoor Nationals 9. 15-1 Dylan Duvio LA John Curtis 2013 02/19/2011 LHSAA High School Indoor State Championships 10. 15-0 Joseph Beck TX Royse City 2012 01/01/2011 Pole Vault Expo Explosion II 11. 15-0 Tyler Ginger IL Stanford Olympia High School 2013 01/28/2011 National Pole Vault Summit 12. 15-0 Beau Whitman PA Germantown Academy 2012 02/12/2011 PTFCA Indoor Track Carnival 13. 15-0 Tyler Wolfe OH Columbus Grove 2012 03/06/2011 University of Findlay High School Invite II - Div 2/3 14. 15-0 Kyle Johnston IN Penn High School 2012 03/19/2011 Hoosier State Relays *** MILESPLIT US FIRST TEAM ELITE 15-0 *** 15. 14-10 Michael Shiverdecker OH Wayne 2012 02/12/2011 Richey High School Early Bird Meet @ Cedarville 16. 14-9.25 Austin Vegas NC East Forsyth 2012 02/19/2011 Gamecock Invitational RETURNERS from 2011 Outdoor Season: Rank Mark Athlete Name Team C/O Date Meet 1. 17-2 Reese Watson TX Spring 2012 04/06/2011 Texas Relays 2. 17-0.75 Jacob Blankenship OH Gahanna Lincoln 2012 06/16/2011 New Balance Outdoor Nationals 3. 16-10 Andreas Duplantis LA Lafayette High 2012 03/18/2011 Lafayette Oil City Relays 4. 16-6 Josh Sonnen TX Midlothian 2012 04/02/2011 Cedar Hill Longhorn Relays 5. 16-3 Marques Hicks TX Hallsville 2012 05/13/2011 UIL Track and Field Championship 6. 16-3 Dylan Bell TX Alvarado 2012 05/13/2011 UIL Track and Field Championship 7. 16-1.25 Garrett Starkey AZ Basha High School 2012 05/04/2011 Southeast Valley Championship 8. 16-1 Kyle Padalecki TX San Antonio East Central 2012 04/06/2011 Texas Relays 9. 16-1 Connor Stark CA Oak Park High (SS) 2012 04/08/2011 Arcadia Invitational 10. 16-1 Patrick Anderson PA Kane Area 2012 05/20/2011 PIAA District 9 AA Championship 11. 16-0 Shawn Barber TX Kingwood Park 2012 03/05/2011 Sam Mosely Relays 12. 16-0 Brett Squibbs SC South Pointe 2012 04/08/2011 Taco Bell Classic 13. 16-0 Dillon Lookout Ok Jenks High School 2012 05/13/2011 STATE 6A 5A 14. 16-0 Richard Connor Foxworth MS Saint Patrick High School 2012 07/23/2011 DAUPHIN STREET VAULT 15. 15-9 Peter Chapman CA Murrieta Valley High (SS) 2012 04/15/2011 Mt SAC Relays (High School) 16. 15-9 Terry Batemon IN Warren Central High School 2012 05/26/2011 Connersville Boys Regional 17. 15-9 Joe Burkett MO Jefferson City High School 2013 07/09/2011 2011 USATF JO Region 16 18. 15-7 Daven Murphree TX Big Sandy 2013 04/06/2011 Texas Relays 19. 15-7 Kyser Anderson CA Clovis West High School 2012 04/08/2011 Arcadia Invitational 20. 15-7p Philippe Ueng CA Temple City High (SS) 2012 05/03/2011 Rio Honda League Finals 21. 15-7 Brendan Sullivan MA Westford Academy 2012 05/11/2011 Lincoln Sudbury vs. Westford Academy 22. 15-6 Jacque Dugas LA St. Thomas More 2012 03/18/2011 Lafayette Oil City Relays 23. 15-6 Austin Vegas NC East Forsyth 2012 04/02/2011 4th Annual Blue Devil Invitational
@wmjbusby The article clearly states that he is the #16 RETURNER in the country, not that he was ranked #16 last year. The same is true for his outdoor mark, which is tied as the 23rd-best RETURNING mark in the country. In case you are unsure of the meaning of the term "returning," it means that last year's seniors were removed from the equation, leaving behind only those who are back to compete this year.

The statistics used in the article are drawn from the MileSplit database, which is what we use for all rankings. As with the DyeStat rankings, we are dependent on people submitting results (except for major invitationals that we cover directly). According to DyeStat's rankings, Austin's outdoor mark of 15' 6" is...you guessed it...the 23rd best RETURNING vaulter from outdoors, which is exactly what was posted in the article. DyeStat seems to have more results from indoor season, and they have Austin as the 23rd RETURNER from indoor season, rather than 16th.

Below are the MileSplit national lists of returning athletes in the pole vault, in case you are not a subscriber and can't see them for yourself. If you have more detailed information that includes results not found in the MileSplit database, please feel free to email it to me.

RETURNERS from 2011 indoor season:

Rank Mark Athlete Name Team C/O Date Meet
1. 16-8 Andreas Duplantis LA Lafayette High 2012 01/28/2011 National Pole Vault Summit
2. 16-3.25 Reese Watson TX Spring 2012 01/07/2011 Texas A&M Open
3. 16-1 Jacob Blankenship OH Gahanna Lincoln 2012 03/11/2011 Central District Indoor Championships
4. 16-0 Shawn Barber TX Kingwood Park 2012 01/01/2011 Pole Vault Expo Explosion II
5. 15-8.25 Terry Batemon IN Warren Central High School 2012 03/11/2011 New Balance Indoor Nationals
6. 15-8.25 Dillon Lookout Ok Pawhuska Hs 2012 03/11/2011 New Balance Indoor Nationals
7. 15-8 Connor Stark CA Oak Park High (SS) 2012 01/28/2011 National Pole Vault Summit
8. 15-2.25 Kyle Padalecki TX San Antonio East Central 2012 03/11/2011 New Balance Indoor Nationals
9. 15-1 Dylan Duvio LA John Curtis 2013 02/19/2011 LHSAA High School Indoor State Championships
10. 15-0 Joseph Beck TX Royse City 2012 01/01/2011 Pole Vault Expo Explosion II
11. 15-0 Tyler Ginger IL Stanford Olympia High School 2013 01/28/2011 National Pole Vault Summit
12. 15-0 Beau Whitman PA Germantown Academy 2012 02/12/2011 PTFCA Indoor Track Carnival
13. 15-0 Tyler Wolfe OH Columbus Grove 2012 03/06/2011 University of Findlay High School Invite II - Div 2/3
14. 15-0 Kyle Johnston IN Penn High School 2012 03/19/2011 Hoosier State Relays
*** MILESPLIT US FIRST TEAM ELITE 15-0 ***
15. 14-10 Michael Shiverdecker OH Wayne 2012 02/12/2011 Richey High School Early Bird Meet @ Cedarville
16. 14-9.25 Austin Vegas NC East Forsyth 2012 02/19/2011 Gamecock Invitational

RETURNERS from 2011 Outdoor Season:

Rank Mark Athlete Name Team C/O Date Meet
1. 17-2 Reese Watson TX Spring 2012 04/06/2011 Texas Relays
2. 17-0.75 Jacob Blankenship OH Gahanna Lincoln 2012 06/16/2011 New Balance Outdoor Nationals
3. 16-10 Andreas Duplantis LA Lafayette High 2012 03/18/2011 Lafayette Oil City Relays
4. 16-6 Josh Sonnen TX Midlothian 2012 04/02/2011 Cedar Hill Longhorn Relays
5. 16-3 Marques Hicks TX Hallsville 2012 05/13/2011 UIL Track and Field Championship
6. 16-3 Dylan Bell TX Alvarado 2012 05/13/2011 UIL Track and Field Championship
7. 16-1.25 Garrett Starkey AZ Basha High School 2012 05/04/2011 Southeast Valley Championship
8. 16-1 Kyle Padalecki TX San Antonio East Central 2012 04/06/2011 Texas Relays
9. 16-1 Connor Stark CA Oak Park High (SS) 2012 04/08/2011 Arcadia Invitational
10. 16-1 Patrick Anderson PA Kane Area 2012 05/20/2011 PIAA District 9 AA Championship
11. 16-0 Shawn Barber TX Kingwood Park 2012 03/05/2011 Sam Mosely Relays
12. 16-0 Brett Squibbs SC South Pointe 2012 04/08/2011 Taco Bell Classic
13. 16-0 Dillon Lookout Ok Jenks High School 2012 05/13/2011 STATE 6A 5A
14. 16-0 Richard Connor Foxworth MS Saint Patrick High School 2012 07/23/2011 DAUPHIN STREET VAULT
15. 15-9 Peter Chapman CA Murrieta Valley High (SS) 2012 04/15/2011 Mt SAC Relays (High School)
16. 15-9 Terry Batemon IN Warren Central High School 2012 05/26/2011 Connersville Boys Regional
17. 15-9 Joe Burkett MO Jefferson City High School 2013 07/09/2011 2011 USATF JO Region 16
18. 15-7 Daven Murphree TX Big Sandy 2013 04/06/2011 Texas Relays
19. 15-7 Kyser Anderson CA Clovis West High School 2012 04/08/2011 Arcadia Invitational
20. 15-7p Philippe Ueng CA Temple City High (SS) 2012 05/03/2011 Rio Honda League Finals
21. 15-7 Brendan Sullivan MA Westford Academy 2012 05/11/2011 Lincoln Sudbury vs. Westford Academy
22. 15-6 Jacque Dugas LA St. Thomas More 2012 03/18/2011 Lafayette Oil City Relays
23. 15-6 Austin Vegas NC East Forsyth 2012 04/02/2011 4th Annual Blue Devil Invitational
11/30/2011 9:55:07 PM
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@CoachGeorgeRJR Well done, now we'll see if the poster will respond with an apology.
@CoachGeorgeRJR Well done, now we'll see if the poster will respond with an apology.
11/30/2011 10:42:47 PM
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Hang in there Jeff.More coaches around the state appreciate what you do and the unbelievable work you put into the website . If someone has that much time to sit around and argue over prevues instead of real stats ,I feel sorry for them and whomever their coaching or playing for!
Hang in there Jeff.More coaches around the state appreciate what you do and the unbelievable work you put into the website . If someone has that much time to sit around and argue over prevues instead of real stats ,I feel sorry for them and whomever their coaching or playing for!
11/30/2011 11:58:14 PM
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Great response Coach George. I do not understand why someone would post such a caustic response without checking the relevent post wording first. "Returning " is pretty prominent in your preview post. I guess Mr Busby can blame it on "brain freeze", as I am sure it is cold this time of year in MN. Keep up the great job Coach George we NC track fans appreciate all of your tireless efforts to provide a fair and objective take on NC track.
Great response Coach George. I do not understand why someone would post such a caustic response without checking the relevent post wording first. "Returning " is pretty prominent in your preview post. I guess Mr Busby can blame it on "brain freeze", as I am sure it is cold this time of year in MN. Keep up the great job Coach George we NC track fans appreciate all of your tireless efforts to provide a fair and objective take on NC track.
12/01/2011 1:04:22 PM
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Coach George, Well said!
Coach George, Well said!
12/01/2011 1:38:01 PM
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I've sent the poster an email, kindly asking him to respond with an appropriate apology.....
I've sent the poster an email, kindly asking him to respond with an appropriate apology.....
12/01/2011 7:30:49 PM
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Duplantis graudated and is at LSU now.. Austin is #15 :)
Duplantis graudated and is at LSU now.. Austin is #15 :)
12/02/2011 7:01:13 AM
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@HWPixHend I wouldn't hold your breath. Let's just say I'm familiar with this particular poster.
@HWPixHend I wouldn't hold your breath. Let's just say I'm familiar with this particular poster.

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