10,000 m Showdown at Stanford
04/25/2012 12:55:56 AM
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Ahmed, Leavins and Bairu (arguably the 3 best 10k runners in Canada) will Ine up this weekend in a 10,000 at the Payton Jordon. Maybe we'll see a sub 27:45, which is the A standard.
Ahmed, Leavins and Bairu (arguably the 3 best 10k runners in Canada) will
Ine up this weekend in a 10,000 at the Payton Jordon. Maybe we'll see a sub 27:45, which is the A standard.
04/25/2012 3:00:42 PM
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I'm not a big predictions guy, but Levins will go 27:40-45. He's a high volume guy who is very clearly on his game. He will convert his recent 5k performance with no difficulty at all, barring something strange and unforeseen. Unfortunately, his athletic life with then become a lot more complicated (the kind of complication that any athlete would welcome, but complicated nonetheless). With two very fast distance results in April, the championship collegiate season still 2-3 weeks away, and the Olympics still over 3 months hence, finding the optimal balance between training and racing is going to be challenging in the extreme. Then again, he could always just keep running 150miles/week, race everything from 1500 to 10k, and hope for the best. It's worked pretty well so far!
I'm not a big predictions guy, but Levins will go 27:40-45. He's a high volume guy who is very clearly on his game. He will convert his recent 5k performance with no difficulty at all, barring something strange and unforeseen. Unfortunately, his athletic life with then become a lot more complicated (the kind of complication that any athlete would welcome, but complicated nonetheless). With two very fast distance results in April, the championship collegiate season still 2-3 weeks away, and the Olympics still over 3 months hence, finding the optimal balance between training and racing is going to be challenging in the extreme. Then again, he could always just keep running 150miles/week, race everything from 1500 to 10k, and hope for the best. It's worked pretty well so far!
04/26/2012 10:13:56 AM
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Looks like the 1500 (hopefully it has a rabbit!) has the potential to see the A standard achieved! Milne is more than capable of walking away from this weekend with the A standard! Lets get after it from the gun gents! As for the 10,000m I can def see Cam winning the battle of the Canadians and maybe the win period, just based on his 5000m performance last week. Mo has been relatively quiet to start the outdoor season, but I wouldnt be surprised if he was battling it out with Cam coming down the home stretch. Im also not huge on predictions, but I will go out and give Cam credit for a 27:36-27:39 performance. I also would not be surprised if Cam has a huge break through, races smart, works his way up, and attacks for the win to run some kinda rediculous time. Nothing surprises me now with Cam haha, expect the unexpected with him! Don't overlook the steeple either, as this is a big race for our top 3 Canadians. It will be interesting to see Hughes, Genest and Winter battling it out!
Looks like the 1500 (hopefully it has a rabbit!) has the potential to see the A standard achieved! Milne is more than capable of walking away from this weekend with the A standard! Lets get after it from the gun gents!

As for the 10,000m I can def see Cam winning the battle of the Canadians and maybe the win period, just based on his 5000m performance last week. Mo has been relatively quiet to start the outdoor season, but I wouldnt be surprised if he was battling it out with Cam coming down the home stretch. Im also not huge on predictions, but I will go out and give Cam credit for a 27:36-27:39 performance. I also would not be surprised if Cam has a huge break through, races smart, works his way up, and attacks for the win to run some kinda rediculous time. Nothing surprises me now with Cam haha, expect the unexpected with him!

Don't overlook the steeple either, as this is a big race for our top 3 Canadians. It will be interesting to see Hughes, Genest and Winter battling it out!
04/30/2012 12:19:22 AM
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LOPEZ LOMONG'S 5km was amazing! He ran a 13:11, he kicked a lap early and thought the race was finished...but then the photographers told him "ONE MORE TO GO" and he still won and made Olympic standard!! CHECK OUT THE VIDEO.
LOPEZ LOMONG'S 5km was amazing!
He ran a 13:11, he kicked a lap early and thought the race was finished...but then the photographers told him "ONE MORE TO GO" and he still won and made Olympic standard!! CHECK OUT THE VIDEO.
04/30/2012 1:24:03 AM
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CAM LEVINS 27:27 CLOSED IN 55.7 (AMERICAN COLLEGIATE RECORD) HIS 2nd 5km was 13:27 WOOHOO! crazy.. Mo Ahmed, Ran 27:34 ALSO under olympic standard!! Simon Bairu ran 27:57 (I think) Solid races by Canadians
CAM LEVINS 27:27 CLOSED IN 55.7 (AMERICAN COLLEGIATE RECORD)
HIS 2nd 5km was 13:27
WOOHOO! crazy..
Mo Ahmed, Ran 27:34 ALSO under olympic standard!!
Simon Bairu ran 27:57 (I think)
Solid races by Canadians
04/30/2012 1:24:12 AM
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Levins ftw 2727, Mo 6th in 27:34! Both hit standard by alot! congrats to both!!
Levins ftw 2727, Mo 6th in 27:34! Both hit standard by alot! congrats to both!!
04/30/2012 2:02:43 AM
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Great run. Have 3 Canadians ever broke 28 in one race? BTW it was under the American collegiate record but Derrick gets it because he is American. [quote=therunna]CAM LEVINS 27:27 CLOSED IN 55.7 (AMERICAN COLLEGIATE RECORD) HIS 2nd 5km was 13:27 WOOHOO! crazy.. Mo Ahmed, Ran 27:34 ALSO under olympic standard!! Simon Bairu ran 27:57 (I think) Solid races by Canadians[/quote] @therunna
Great run. Have 3 Canadians ever broke 28 in one race? BTW it was under the American collegiate record but Derrick gets it because he is American.

herunna wrote:
CAM LEVINS 27:27 CLOSED IN 55.7 (AMERICAN COLLEGIATE RECORD)
HIS 2nd 5km was 13:27
WOOHOO! crazy..
Mo Ahmed, Ran 27:34 ALSO under olympic standard!!
Simon Bairu ran 27:57 (I think)
Solid races by Canadians


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04/30/2012 3:37:17 AM
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[quote=bryano]Great run. Have 3 Canadians ever broke 28 in one race? BTW it was under the American collegiate record but Derrick gets it because he is American. therunnaCAM LEVINS 27:27 CLOSED IN 55.7 (AMERICAN COLLEGIATE RECORD) HIS 2nd 5km was 13:27 WOOHOO! crazy.. Mo Ahmed, Ran 27:34 ALSO under olympic standard!! Simon Bairu ran 27:57 (I think) Solid races by Canadians @therunna[/quote] @bryano Phenomenal run by both Cam and Mo. I don't understand what you mean when you say American Collegiate Record for Cam? He is not american, he does attend an American School but so did Sam Chelanga when he ran 27:08 in 2010. Hopefully Simon will take another run in Hengelo and we can get three 10k runners to go with our three marathoners. Pretty incredible turn of events in the distance ranks in the past three years.
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Great run. Have 3 Canadians ever broke 28 in one race? BTW it was under the American collegiate record but Derrick gets it because he is American.

therunnaCAM LEVINS 27:27 CLOSED IN 55.7 (AMERICAN COLLEGIATE RECORD)
HIS 2nd 5km was 13:27
WOOHOO! crazy..
Mo Ahmed, Ran 27:34 ALSO under olympic standard!!
Simon Bairu ran 27:57 (I think)
Solid races by Canadians

@therunna


@bryano Phenomenal run by both Cam and Mo. I don't understand what you mean when you say American Collegiate Record for Cam? He is not american, he does attend an American School but so did Sam Chelanga when he ran 27:08 in 2010. Hopefully Simon will take another run in Hengelo and we can get three 10k runners to go with our three marathoners. Pretty incredible turn of events in the distance ranks in the past three years.
04/30/2012 7:49:48 AM
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Some solid distance running. I see megan wright also hit 15:21 in the 5000.. moving in the right direction after her last 5000m.
Some solid distance running. I see megan wright also hit 15:21 in the 5000.. moving in the right direction after her last 5000m.
04/30/2012 10:37:43 AM
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Totally worth staying up for haha. So exciting to see Canadians doing well in the distance events. Inspiring! Cam will be the first Canadian under 13 mins! Mo and Cam are setting the bar high! Great to see and I cant wait to see these guys toe the line for Canada at the Olympics!
Totally worth staying up for haha. So exciting to see Canadians doing well in the distance events. Inspiring! Cam will be the first Canadian under 13 mins! Mo and Cam are setting the bar high! Great to see and I cant wait to see these guys toe the line for Canada at the Olympics!
04/30/2012 12:09:28 PM
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Just thoughts I'd shoot some other performances by other Canadians at standford so they are not entirely overlooked by the 10k results haha! Wright 15:21 Brown 15:33 Milne 3:38 Proudfoot 3:41 Genest 8:27 Hughes 8:31 Neal 1:51
Just thoughts I'd shoot some other performances by other Canadians at standford so they are not entirely overlooked by the 10k results haha!

Wright 15:21

Brown 15:33

Milne 3:38

Proudfoot 3:41

Genest 8:27

Hughes 8:31

Neal 1:51
04/30/2012 12:31:53 PM
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Chris Winter also went 8:33 in the steeple and Chantelle Groenwould went 9:54 in the women's lots of Canadian distance runners approaching Olympic standards. Martinson was 3:39 in the 1500.
Chris Winter also went 8:33 in the steeple and Chantelle Groenwould went 9:54 in the women's lots of Canadian distance runners approaching Olympic standards. Martinson was 3:39 in the 1500.
04/30/2012 12:38:38 PM
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[quote=ChrisMoulton]bryanoGreat run. Have 3 Canadians ever broke 28 in one race? BTW it was under the American collegiate record but Derrick gets it because he is American. therunnaCAM LEVINS 27:27 CLOSED IN 55.7 (AMERICAN COLLEGIATE RECORD) HIS 2nd 5km was 13:27 WOOHOO! crazy.. Mo Ahmed, Ran 27:34 ALSO under olympic standard!! Simon Bairu ran 27:57 (I think) Solid races by Canadians @therunna @bryano Phenomenal run by both Cam and Mo. I don't understand what you mean when you say American Collegiate Record for Cam? He is not american, he does attend an American School but so did Sam Chelanga when he ran 27:08 in 2010. Hopefully Simon will take another run in Hengelo and we can get three 10k runners to go with our three marathoners. Pretty incredible turn of events in the distance ranks in the past three years.[/quote] @ChrisMoulton I was just commenting on someone else's post Chris. I understand he can't set American record. Lost in the news was Mo Ahmed's 27:34 - a phenomenal run for him. i like the way these guys competed in the key parts of the race - including Bairu. It seems Simon has not yet come back fully from his marathon training, but this result bodes well.
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bryanoGreat run. Have 3 Canadians ever broke 28 in one race? BTW it was under the American collegiate record but Derrick gets it because he is American.

therunnaCAM LEVINS 27:27 CLOSED IN 55.7 (AMERICAN COLLEGIATE RECORD)
HIS 2nd 5km was 13:27
WOOHOO! crazy..
Mo Ahmed, Ran 27:34 ALSO under olympic standard!!
Simon Bairu ran 27:57 (I think)
Solid races by Canadians

@therunna

@bryano Phenomenal run by both Cam and Mo. I don't understand what you mean when you say American Collegiate Record for Cam? He is not american, he does attend an American School but so did Sam Chelanga when he ran 27:08 in 2010. Hopefully Simon will take another run in Hengelo and we can get three 10k runners to go with our three marathoners. Pretty incredible turn of events in the distance ranks in the past three years.


@ChrisMoulton

I was just commenting on someone else's post Chris. I understand he can't set American record. Lost in the news was Mo Ahmed's 27:34 - a phenomenal run for him. i like the way these guys competed in the key parts of the race - including Bairu. It seems Simon has not yet come back fully from his marathon training, but this result bodes well.
04/30/2012 1:02:14 PM
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That was a very exciting race to watch. Most of you guys recall a few years ago when the national team head coach said he didn't think anyone could break Schiebler's record. 2 years after those comments, Bairu's 10000m record isn't safe at all as Levins came 4 seconds off of it.
That was a very exciting race to watch. Most of you guys recall a few years ago when the national team head coach said he didn't think anyone could break Schiebler's record. 2 years after those comments, Bairu's 10000m record isn't safe at all as Levins came 4 seconds off of it.
04/30/2012 2:00:45 PM
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Just to put into perspective, here are the all time NCAA 10,000m bests 27:08 Chelanga 05/01/11 [b]27:27 Levins 04/30/12 [/b] 27:28 Chelanga 04/24/09 27:28 Sambu 05/01/11 27:29 Korir 05/01/11 27:31 Derrick 04/4/30/12 27:33 Rupp 04/29/07 [b]27:34 Ahmed 04/30/12[/b] 27:36 Kamau 04/24/82 27:38 Shahanga 04/24/82 27:38 Ritzenhein 04/30/04 Watch it here: http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/248561-2012-Stanford-Payton-Jordan-Cardinal-Invitation
Just to put into perspective, here are the all time NCAA 10,000m bests

27:08 Chelanga 05/01/11
27:27 Levins 04/30/12
27:28 Chelanga 04/24/09
27:28 Sambu 05/01/11
27:29 Korir 05/01/11
27:31 Derrick 04/4/30/12
27:33 Rupp 04/29/07
27:34 Ahmed 04/30/12
27:36 Kamau 04/24/82
27:38 Shahanga 04/24/82
27:38 Ritzenhein 04/30/04

Watch it here: http://www.flotrack.org/coverage/248561-2012-Stanford-Payton-Jordan-Cardinal-Invitation
04/30/2012 3:58:22 PM
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@ERL_19 This is the same guy who said, in the same context, that Canada was "more a nation of throwers and hurdlers" (in classic AC head-up-the-ass fashion, because our top athletes-- all three of them-- [i]at that moment[/i] happened to be a couple of hurdlers and a thrower). And I guess we'll remain a "nation of hurdlers and throwers"-- until, that is, these lone three athletes retire or get injured! This year, and almost certainly in 4 years, we will have the same or greater representation in the distance ranks, male and female, as in any other event group-- and this, in spite of the far greater level of serious global participation in distance running than in any of the other disciplines, distance running being to the rest of track as soccer is to sport in general. Congrats to the skinny guys and gals for getting it done! And kids, you need to channel what Levins, Mo, Reid, Eric, Dylan et al have been doing and start dreaming of your own massive breakouts, whatever this might entail for you. Be proud and dream big!
@ERL_19 This is the same guy who said, in the same context, that Canada was "more a nation of throwers and hurdlers" (in classic AC head-up-the-ass fashion, because our top athletes-- all three of them-- at that moment happened to be a couple of hurdlers and a thrower). And I guess we'll remain a "nation of hurdlers and throwers"-- until, that is, these lone three athletes retire or get injured! This year, and almost certainly in 4 years, we will have the same or greater representation in the distance ranks, male and female, as in any other event group-- and this, in spite of the far greater level of serious global participation in distance running than in any of the other disciplines, distance running being to the rest of track as soccer is to sport in general.

Congrats to the skinny guys and gals for getting it done! And kids, you need to channel what Levins, Mo, Reid, Eric, Dylan et al have been doing and start dreaming of your own massive breakouts, whatever this might entail for you. Be proud and dream big!
04/30/2012 3:59:20 PM
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P.S. Looks like I was a little light on my Levins pred. I guess this is why I normally refrain.
P.S. Looks like I was a little light on my Levins pred. I guess this is why I normally refrain.
04/30/2012 8:29:04 PM
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@oldster Well said Oldster. Don't get me started with AC. I suppose they will take all the credit even though most of these athletes are not coming from the AC funded programs.
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Well said Oldster. Don't get me started with AC. I suppose they will take all the credit even though most of these athletes are not coming from the AC funded programs.
04/30/2012 9:08:14 PM
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[quote=bryano]Just to put into perspective, here are the all time NCAA 10,000m bests 27:08 Chelanga 05/01/11 27:27 Levins 04/30/12 27:28 Chelanga 04/24/09 27:28 Sambu 05/01/11 27:29 Korir 05/01/11 27:31 Derrick 04/4/30/12 27:33 Rupp 04/29/07 27:34 Ahmed 04/30/12 27:36 Kamau 04/24/82 27:38 Shahanga 04/24/82 27:38 Ritzenhein 04/30/04 Watch it here: www.flotrack.org/coverage/248561-2012-Stanford-Pay....[/quote] @bryano That's right, folks. Mo is faster as a non-red shirt junior than Dathan Ritzenheim EVER was as a collegiate athlete. And, with normal luck and a standard progression, he will pass the great Galen Rupp too (plus, I'll bet he's smarter; there's no question he'll have a better degree!).
bryano wrote:
Just to put into perspective, here are the all time NCAA 10,000m bests

27:08 Chelanga 05/01/11
27:27 Levins 04/30/12
27:28 Chelanga 04/24/09
27:28 Sambu 05/01/11
27:29 Korir 05/01/11
27:31 Derrick 04/4/30/12
27:33 Rupp 04/29/07
27:34 Ahmed 04/30/12
27:36 Kamau 04/24/82
27:38 Shahanga 04/24/82
27:38 Ritzenhein 04/30/04

Watch it here: www.flotrack.org/coverage/248561-2012-Stanford-Pay....


@bryano That's right, folks. Mo is faster as a non-red shirt junior than Dathan Ritzenheim EVER was as a collegiate athlete. And, with normal luck and a standard progression, he will pass the great Galen Rupp too (plus, I'll bet he's smarter; there's no question he'll have a better degree!).
05/01/2012 1:26:16 AM
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Let me ask this. Levins has the A+ standard at 5000 and 10000 and Ahmed has the A+ standard with a fast 5000 yet to be run. Certainly these two shouldn't have to run another hard 10,000 at the national championships, should they? I know I could look this up, but what exactly are the requirements?
Let me ask this. Levins has the A+ standard at 5000 and 10000 and Ahmed has the A+ standard with a fast 5000 yet to be run. Certainly these two shouldn't have to run another hard 10,000 at the national championships, should they? I know I could look this up, but what exactly are the requirements?

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